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[public] Not to start a land war in Asia...

utterlyjaded and I were talking, and talking to a friend of hers, and we decided that we needed input from a greater community. The poll below has to do with the movie The Princess Bride. The poll is primarily directed at American and British folks, though anyone is, of course, welcome to participate.

Without further ado...

Poll #759747 Not to start a land war in Asia...

From what country do you hail?

Great Britain
United States
Somewhere else [please post a comment!]

Have you ever seen The Princess Bride?


Do you consider The Princess Bride to be required viewing to properly be a geek?

Yes, of course.
No, why would it be?
I simply don't understand the obsession.
I am the Dread Pirate Roberts!
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For question number three, I think it is required viewing, period. It has nothing whatsoever to do with being a geek or not being a geek.
I'm in agreement with Lizzie here. I don't see it as a geek thing.
Maybe fantasy geek requirement - but it really is the kind of thing that I think lots of people would love.

As a tangent, I mentioned to our babysitter (yeah, I'm that old now) that K and I went to see X-Men 3 ... and she mentioned it was "too weird". I guess I have to recognize that some people just can't get past the concept of something that cannot exist in their time and their place.
required yes, geek related no
At the risk of sounding AOLish, "me too" to Lizzie's comment...

Required, absolutely.

Nothing to do with geekness, everything to do with capacity for fun and silliness... besides, who can resist Andre the Giant AND Billy Crystal?
Not required, the way, say, Monty Python and the Holy Grail is required, but highly recommended.
Not required viewing. Required reading. The movie fucked up the ending. Hell no, I'm not going to say- what kind of a BOFH would I be then? (If the ending in your copy of the book matches the movie, go find an earlier edition, and shame on the publisher)
What gets me is how so many spooge over how great the fight scenes are. Frankly, it stinks like almost all of Bob Anderson's other credits as "sword master". Don't get me wrong. He is an accomplished fencer and some of that sometimes shows through in his work with actors, but most of the time he gets by with the bare minimum necessary for the cast not to stick themselves too much.

For example, he trained Erol Flynn. Hah. He taught Flynn to rotate his wrist up and down. Add some boxing footwork (Flynn was boxer) and it looks impressive. Well, no, it doesn't, but that's my opinion. The choreography in "The Princess Bride" isn't any better than that; it just has different tricks to distract the audience from how dull the swordplay really is.
Interesting. I'd never heard anyone talking about the swordplay being "great", though I and several friends found the swordplay in that movie fun. (I'll believe you when you assert that many talk about the greatness of the fight scenes; I'm just pointing out that my sample doesn't match yours. For now I'll just assume your sample is larger.)

But now I'm wondering what you think of the sword fights in Ice Pirates.
The dialogue *around* the fights is fun.

I think I saw "The Ice Pirates" once when I was about 16. If I did then the only thing I really remember about it is that it was very, very cheesy.
The sad truth is the really effect sword fights between experts are so completely lacking in drama that movie makers/producers cannot stand it, and they deliberately dumb the fight down to make it pander to a drama starved audience.

I dunno who claimed the sword fights were 'great' - but it must be that they were talking about from the dramatic flair point of view and the exceptionally fun dialogue. They certainly aren't real, but then that's what makes the flick so much fun. None of it is real - it's all a great lark in silliness.

Watch out for those R.O.U.S. things!
To the Pain!

It is great... schtick! Just not great swordplay (or fighting in general).
That is part of it, but part of it is actors who are unwilling or unable to put the effort or physicality into good swordplay. For example, I liked the choreogrpahy in Blade (the first movie). It was silly at times, it was totally over the top most of the time, and it completely fell apart in the (anti-)climactic fight with Frost because for whatever reason Frost looked like he had no idea which end goes into the other man.

I'm not necessarily asking for real. Real works in samurai drama where the drama is tied up in the stare-down rather than the clash of blades. Real doesn't work so well in action movies where fights are expected to last through several stunt sequences. I am asking for something more than two guys standing there doing standard Bob Anderson up-down-up-down-up-down when they're supposed to be better than that. "The Princess Bride" fails to deliver on that count.
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Star Wars
The Empire Strikes Back
...and I'm culturally illiterate, so I can only come up with three.
Funny, we're just watching the "extras" that came with our recent purchase of The Princess Bride, the Dread Pirate Roberts edition.


I don't think it's required for geekhood (though a geek who hasn't seen it will pick up oft-quoted snippets of dialogue without being sure where they came from) ... but I do understand why the question makes sense.

Then again, I don't see a lot of movies, and only got around to seeing some of the geek-canon movies that I've seen (I'm still missing some important ones) after years of incorporating lines and metaphors from them into my idiolect. The Princess Bride is unusual in that I actually saw it while it was still in theatres, not on wee-hours television or at someone else's house. (Others in this category are Star Wars episodes IV, VI, and I; a couple of the Star Trek movies -- are those geek-canon or geek-optional? -- and Serenity.)
Honestly, I think my criteria for what makes something a "geek movie" varies a bit from other folks. I don't ask "is this movie geeky", I ask "how often, when with other geeks, are you going to be bombarded with quotes from this movie". Because, let's face it, most of the geeks I know are more movie-parrots than beings able to communicate vocally, and it sucks to stand around looking clueless while everyone else is laughing at a quote. This movie is quoted a lot, therefore is a requirement.
I love watching the movie with people that haven't seen it and ruining it for them by quoting every single line about 3-4 seconds before the actor utters it.

Yes, I suck, but its fun for me.

It certainly ranks up there with Ghostbusters ("When someone asks you if you're a god, you say YES!") as one of the most quotable movies of all time.
Quotable, absoutely!
Wow, absolutely... ranks above even "Lion in Winter" and "The Wind and the Lion" for pure quotability...

Uh, but I must confess, that could be because my 6 year old step daughter used to watch it over and over and over again (I think I overheard that movie playing in the VCR about 200 times one year while I read, or computed, or cleaned house, or studied). It could have imprinted my brain...

I was even sick of it from over-exposure for about 2 years... but I healed and came to enjoy it again.
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